The Theory of Teleportation(Please read)

[tedhead2]

This is a report i wrote myself, please read it and tell me your thoughts on teleportation.

NOTE: I do not want to see comments like "This can't happen, it's just fantasy." It can happen. And it WILL.




The Theory of Worm-hole, Dematerialization, and “Dimension phasing” Teleportation
My Three Theories

I have three theories when it comes to the subject of teleportation. Worm-hole, dematerialization, and, what I call, “Dimension phasing.”

Worm-hole
This theory is less practical because you are trying to harness a “worm-hole,” or, a tunnel through dimensions, time, or distance, among other things. But the problem is that, it is not known what it leads to. If you can harness the worm-hole, that’s great! But, if you can’t find out where it is going, and how to control that, it is useless.

Dematerialization
This is much more practical because it is using already proven facts, just modifying them.

Einstein had a theory saying that atoms can be extracted. I say that if you can do that, you can also completely dematerialize something(or someone) and move it.

Having a machine that can take a “picture” of that way your atoms are constructed, then dematerializing you, and sending you through space to the other machine, and then that machine will use the “picture” as a template to put you back together. These machines would most likely be huge, very loud, and cost billions in research and development. But the rewards are great, you could use these to transport important people, so you would not get as much paparazzi. You could also teleport documents, almost everything. If one could be made large enough, I have no doubt you could teleport a whole car, or even a house.


“Dimension phasing”
This theory would be almost impossible to prove correct, because there is no way known to man to “phase” through dimensions, and back again.

To do this, you would need to have a device that can move you into a very similar dimension, move you at the speed of light, then bring you back to this one.

The Wrap-up
Out of all three of these, dematerialization is the most practical, and possible, theory.

I hope this simple research paper can inspire other people to consider teleportation, and maybe one day, create the very first teleported, and if it is done before I’m dead, I would love to volunteer to be the first person to go in it.


Jordan L. Manuel
Nov. 13, 2010



if this is in the wrong place, please move it!

[Fly]

Very interesting; I read it all. I like the idea of "Dematerialization". I'd love to see research in teleportation.
Edit: Dematerialization could also lead to cloning.

[zar0s]

o.o
i read it all but the one with detail is the Dematerialization
but its okay i guess good job :P

[tedhead2]

Thanks, I don't have much to work with as there has been little written about teleportation.

If there was more, this report could have been many pages long.

[Ishana]

How is that a debate? you can't debate something you don't fully know it exists or not..

On topic

I was also thinking about this one time..

if teleport was real then if you used it you would be in 2 places which means for example
you enter
your image will enter
your image image will enter

what would case that? speed

speed = heat

atoms break with heat
so it will just keep creating images of your self following you and there will be trillions of them

or if you don't make it then You will break up to pieces

[Jess]

i do not think there is much to lead to Teleporting but if there is i would like to see it.

[Zykev2]

How is that a debate? you can't debate something you don't fully know it exists or not..


How do you explain religious debates?

[Hutch]

All I know about teleportation is that by "teleporting" one is that you're destroying him in one location and just remaking him in another. That's my input about it, you may not know what I mean or anything.

[2kbarrows]

It's basiclly this> Separates you atom by atom, then sends em to a new location...
Problem > To save a human body it would take more than a billion Gb in HDD or SDD, and if one atom is lost you could respawn with a highly dangerous problem...
And you would die and re-spawn, which is basicly impossible for our current technology.

[Rog3r]

It's basiclly this> Separates you atom by atom, then sends em to a new location...
Problem > To save a human body it would take more than a billion Gb in HDD or SDD, and if one atom is lost you could respawn with a highly dangerous problem...
And you would die and re-spawn, which is basicly impossible for our current technology.

If it separates the atom, you'll get a reaction (atomic I believe?). I don't believe in teleportation in the sense of moving particles and shit to another location. In reality, that's physically impossible but how about bending a point in space (like a worm-hole) to move the object to the other side?

Bending something is a lot more plausible then teleportation in my opinion.

Teleportation involves taking an object and placing it to another location without moving it (hope you understand :p)!

In other words, from point A to point B instantly.

[u back 4 m0r]

It's unbelievable how things like this exist on Earth such as ghosts, spirits, supernatural activity, and much more.

[Ficho]

Didnt read it all but.. I can asure that in at least 2060 teleporting will be able.. 101%

[tedhead2]

OK... I can see how a lot of you can't understand the dematerialize thing, but it is NOT splitting! SPLITTING an atom causes a HUGE explosion.

And, in case you didn't read it all the way, I said your atoms travel through space, meaning speed will not equal heat because there is no air to allow heat.

[Slik]

The Theory of Worm-hole, Dematerialization, and “Dimension phasing” Teleportation
My Three Theories

I have three theories when it comes to the subject of teleportation. Worm-hole, dematerialization, and, what I call, “Dimension phasing.”

Worm-hole
This theory is less practical because you are trying to harness a “worm-hole,” or, a tunnel through dimensions, time, or distance, among other things. But the problem is that, it is not known what it leads to. If you can harness the worm-hole, that’s great! But, if you can’t find out where it is going, and how to control that, it is useless.

Dematerialization
This is much more practical because it is using already proven facts, just modifying them.

Einstein had a theory saying that atoms can be extracted. I say that if you can do that, you can also completely dematerialize something(or someone) and move it.

Having a machine that can take a “picture” of that way your atoms are constructed, then dematerializing you, and sending you through space to the other machine, and then that machine will use the “picture” as a template to put you back together. These machines would most likely be huge, very loud, and cost billions in research and development. But the rewards are great, you could use these to transport important people, so you would not get as much paparazzi. You could also teleport documents, almost everything. If one could be made large enough, I have no doubt you could teleport a whole car, or even a house.

“Dimension phasing”
This theory would be almost impossible to prove correct, because there is no way known to man to “phase” through dimensions, and back again.

To do this, you would need to have a device that can move you into a very similar dimension, move you at the speed of light, then bring you back to this one.

The Wrap-up
Out of all three of these, dematerialization is the most practical, and possible, theory.

I hope this simple research paper can inspire other people to consider teleportation, and maybe one day, create the very first teleported, and if it is done before I’m dead, I would love to volunteer to be the first person to go in it.

Non of these theories are original.

Worm hole - Experimenting with it is practically impossible since you have no way of tracing results, so you might aswell forgot that one.

Dematerialization - If you can transport atoms over such long distances, why not send the human as a whole. The problem is not size, it is trying to travel to a far place quickly. Moving atoms or moving a human, you'll still need to create the technology to transport things very quickly; make it larger and save yourself the hassle by transporting whole humans.
(I assume you are talking about teleporting across space, in other words space travel.)

Dimension phasing - It is impossible to move at the speed of light, you can only move as close to the speed of light as possible, only slightly off. More so, if you can move almost at the speed of light then why would you need to go to another dimension? Just stay in the same dimension and travel to where ever you disire.

[Matty]

If anyone else would like to spam then you're getting an infraction. Don't reply if it isn't intelligent.

[Trey]

The issue with dematerialization is restructuring the destructed atoms. It would take an unbelievable amount of processing power and memory to store the atomic patterns in a blade of grass, let alone a human being. And that's simply storing the data, disregarding the concept of breaking something down, moving the atomic make up, and then putting it back together.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Our technology is impressive, but hasn't quite made it that far. Plus dematerialization isn't plausible. Bending space-time is a much more logical way about "teleportation", considering it's the only way to travel "faster" than the speed of light.

[Slik]

The issue with dematerialization is restructuring the destructed atoms. It would take an unbelievable amount of processing power and memory to store the atomic patterns in a blade of grass, let alone a human being. And that's simply storing the data, disregarding the concept of breaking something down, moving the atomic make up, and then putting it back together.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I just don't see it happening anytime soon. Our technology is impressive, but hasn't quite made it that far. Plus dematerialization isn't plausible. Bending space-time is a much more logical way about "teleportation", considering it's the only way to travel "faster" than the speed of light.

So many flaws in that theory, such as the pain one would be in from the process. Our nerves would be under so much stress, also what about our memory/thoughts and intelligence. Taking apart our brain is one thing; who is to say you will still be you and not be blank. You are right though Trey, we have trillions of germs in us, let alone the count of our cells etc. We don't even know exactly how many cells there are in a human body yet, because each body is different.

[Trey]

So many flaws in that theory, such as the pain one would be in from the process. Our nerves would be under so much stress, also what about our memory/thoughts and intelligence. Taking apart our brain is one thing; who is to say you will still be you and not be blank. You are right though Trey, we have trillions of germs in us, let alone the count of our cells etc. We don't even know exactly how many cells there are in a human body yet, because each body is different.

Exactly. The point is that it we simply aren't advanced enough in technology for this really be a concern or possibility at this point.

[Relapse]

We are still driving cars on a non (easily) renewable source haha theres no way that this is coming in the near future.

But isn't even time travel basically just theories I can't think of that many tests that were done on the subject...

[Zykev2]

Pretty weird, and fits perfectly in the debate.

Only the registered members can see the link.

Saw this on CNN.

[Slik]

Time travel itself is entirely possible, and it has been proven. They proved it by accelerating a catalyst that normally would die in 400th of a second to just a fraction of the speed of light in which time they lasted past 400th of a second which proved theories correct. The reason this is happened is because in order to protect the speed of light the catalyst aged slower; which basically meant they traveled into the future.

This then allowed for calculations to be made, their life span compared to their extended life time gave them a result of how far they traveled into the future and how long they spent getting there, important information if a human were to travel into the future.

This means we can know how long we would have to travel, just slightly slower than the speed of light in order to travel into the future.

[Complex]

Great, overall. The de-materialization part reminds me of thinking about moving through walls. Its possible if you could somehow seperate your atoms apart and put them back together on the other side.

[Trey]

Time travel itself is entirely possible, and it has been proven. They proved it by accelerating a catalyst that normally would die in 400th of a second to just a fraction of the speed of light in which time they lasted past 400th of a second which proved theories correct. The reason this is happened is because in order to protect the speed of light the catalyst aged slower; which basically meant they traveled into the future.

This then allowed for calculations to be made, their life span compared to their extended life time gave them a result of how far they traveled into the future and how long they spent getting there, important information if a human were to travel into the future.

This means we can know how long we would have to travel, just slightly slower than the speed of light in order to travel into the future.

Einstein's principles of special relativity account for adjustment of time to fit the speed of light, that really isn't an issue. The speed of light is a constant for a reason, it's the same in all reference frames. Thus, the faster you travel, the more time with adjust to guarantee the speed of light. However, nothing with mass can exceed the speed of light, noting that photons do travel the speed of light and are massless particles. If you were to exceed the speed of light, you'd be seeing things as they previously were, since you'd be seeing "old" light, which could be considered traveling back in time in a sense. The issue is teleportation, as in leaping locations and maybe even backwards through time.

On that subject, next time you talk to your physics teacher, be sure to tell them that F=ma is a lie. Since photons have no mass, but they do have momentum.

F = dp/dt (The actual definition for force, p being momentum).

In a situation where something does have mass:
F=dp/dt,
since p = mv...
F=d(mv)/dt (now assuming that mass is constant, which is also not always true)
F=m(dv/dt)
F=ma

[Slik]

That is assuming that photons have no mass, if light didn't have mass then why does gravity apply on it? It depends, at a scale we cannot comprehend something it may seem like there is no mass but if we were able to scale down it is possible that it has mass. This hasn't been proven, more things suggest against this than for it. It is widely accepted that in order to prevent mass exceeding the speed of light time acts differently on it, which is basically what i've said.

It isn't proven, to what I know of anyway that protons have no mass. Their momentum must originate from an initally source which would be its mass; that said it is extreamly small.

[Trey]

That is assuming that photons have no mass, if light didn't have mass then why does gravity apply on it? It depends, at a scale we cannot comprehend something it may seem like there is no mass but if we were able to scale down it is possible that it has mass. This hasn't been proven, more things suggest against this than for it. It is widely accepted that in order to prevent mass exceeding the speed of light time acts differently on it, which is basically what i've said.

It isn't proven, to what I know of anyway that protons have no mass. Their momentum must originate from an initally source which would be its mass; that said it is extreamly small.

Photons do not have mass. Their mass can only be written in terms of their velocity and momentum according to E=mc^2 such that it can be used in other calculations, but they're massless in newtonian physics. If photons had mass then a large portion of physics having to do with electricity and magnetism would be incorrect. Photons only have "mass" while in motion, which is why we must use their momentum to represent their mass since their mass is 0 at rest.

Note that proton != photon.

Also, note that gravity doesn't work solely with mass as in newtonian physics. Technically, gravity works by curving space-time. Thus why you can see stars behind a total eclipse, due to curvature of space-time.

[Slik]

That is one of the endless debates in physics though isn't it, what is your reasoning as to why light is sucked into a black holes then? Intresting topic to discuss, slightly off topic non the less.

[Trey]

That is one of the endless debates in physics though isn't it, what is your reasoning as to why light is sucked into a black holes then? Intresting topic to discuss, slightly off topic non the less.

Read my edit at the bottom. If light can't escape a blackhole, nothing can since nothing can travel faster than light, which is generally the idea.

[Slik]

In theory it may sound logical, but there are many flaws such as when experiments are done which don't work. Read this as an example;

'A famous flaw in Einstein's theory is the Clock Paradox. This states that if one clock travels in a spaceship, while the other stays on earth, when the clock in the spaceship returns it will show that less time has elapsed than the clock on earth. This prediction violates Einstein's own 'principle of relativity,' which states that if you are on the spaceship it should be the clock back on earth that slows down. This is a criticism that science has never been able to satisfactorily resolve.'

A good example to show what I am talking about.

[Trey]

In theory it may sound logical, but there are many flaws such as when experiments are done which don't work. Read this as an example;

'A famous flaw in Einstein's theory is the Clock Paradox. This states that if one clock travels in a spaceship, while the other stays on earth, when the clock in the spaceship returns it will show that less time has elapsed than the clock on earth. This prediction violates Einstein's own 'principle of relativity,' which states that if you are on the spaceship it should be the clock back on earth that slows down. This is a criticism that science has never been able to satisfactorily resolve.'

A good example to show what I am talking about.

That's a very famous paradox, also can be seen as the "twin paradox". It makes sense though, time adjusts to fit the speed of light correct? Since the clock is traveling closer to the speed of light, time relative to that clock will be slowed. It's a paradox, but it can hardly be used as any indication that the fundamentals of physics over the last 30 or 40 years are incorrect. If anything, that very paradox provides proof to special relativity. If Einstein was incorrect, both clocks would read the same time.

Proof of massless photons again goes back to blackholes, gravitation, and electrical physics. If photons had mass, a lot of modern physics simply wouldn't work. We can't perform a direct experiment on a photon to determine its mass, but we most definitely can state that the idea of a massless photon has passed every test implied. The same way newtonian physics in many ways is incorrect, but in every instance that we performed experiments many many years ago, they worked. Only until quantum physics attempted to used newtonian physics did we realize the flaws.

We simply can't perform experiments on most theoretical and quantum physics, and as a result we must apply the theorems to situations until they don't work. So far massless photons and special relativity haven't failed.

[Slik]

There are some clear gaps that still need to be solved, and a hell of a lot before anything like this topic needs to be discussed ;). I do see where you are coming from though, there are a lot more examples. It is weird though because his theories fit perfectly with each other and with some examples, but in practice they don't pan out correctly. Einstein covered a lot, but there is still more to arise, it doesn't cover quantum mechanics; we need something to cover subatomic to cosmic.

[Trey]

There are some clear gaps that still need to be solved, and a hell of a lot before anything like this topic needs to be discussed ;). I do see where you are coming from though, there are a lot more examples. It is weird though because his theories fit perfectly with each other and with some examples, but in practice they don't pan out correctly. Einstein covered a lot, but there is still more to arise, it doesn't cover quantum mechanics; we need something to cover subatomic to cosmic.

Exactly, we simply aren't far enough yet to be worrying about something like time travel or teleportation. Until we've done a better job of unifying our theories, then other things are less of a priority the way I see it. We're essentially arguing the same thing, and indirectly supporting each other, lol.

[Slik]

You are right, one of the things we should be aiming to achieve is finding a suitable energy source that is viable. Untill that point, if we priotize the work need to still do, this would be right at the bottom of the barrel.

[2kbarrows]

If it separates the atom, you'll get a reaction (atomic I believe?). I don't believe in teleportation in the sense of moving particles and shit to another location. In reality, that's physically impossible but how about bending a point in space (like a worm-hole) to move the object to the other side?

Bending something is a lot more plausible then teleportation in my opinion.

Teleportation involves taking an object and placing it to another location without moving it (hope you understand :p)!

In other words, from point A to point B instantly.

Isn´t that very riscy?
Cause, correct me if i´m being idiot-like, but can´t you end up just about anywhere via wormhole, cause controlling one is out of the human-mind.

[Slik]

Isn´t that very riscy?
Cause, correct me if i´m being idiot-like, but can´t you end up just about anywhere via wormhole, cause controlling one is out of the human-mind.

Even in theory they are not accurate, you don't know where it leads to or how to trace results; your only bet would be to explore and hope for a return. You can't use a wormhole to travel to the sun; or somewhere else precisely because as of now you are unable to determine the end location it would take you to.

[2kbarrows]

Even in theory they are not accurate, you don't know where it leads to or how to trace results; your only bet would be to explore and hope for a return. You can't use a wormhole to travel to the sun; or somewhere else precisely because as of now you are unable to determine the end location it would take you to.

This...
I was thinking, can´t speed + energy generate a teleportation or possibly even time-travel effect?

[Trey]

This...
I was thinking, can´t speed + energy generate a teleportation or possibly even time-travel effect?

If you were to approach the speed of light, say 99.9% of the speed of light, then you'd be traveling very fast and time would slow, which would make it seem like you've teleported, disregarding the fact that you'd be completely destroyed in that process.

[Relapse]

You are right, one of the things we should be aiming to achieve is finding a suitable energy source that is viable. Untill that point, if we priotize the work need to still do, this would be right at the bottom of the barrel.

I don't know much about this (I saw it on the history channel one time) but it was saying something about anti-matter and how that would be just about the only thing that would produce the amount of energy needed to sustain almost light speed for long periods of time...

It was saying the only problem with anti-matter is if it were to touch something it would blow it up <--There a science behind that but i'm not familiar with it at all

The only way to be able to use it would to be to suspend it in a magnetic field so it doesn't touch anything.

^^That is basically all I remember from watching it

[Slik]

The problem with antimatter is the cost of harnessing it, we simply are unable to at this period in time. We would require a significant amount energy to produce it; more than yield so the only option would be to try and get it. The problem with this is transporting it, containing it and applying it. I do believe this will one day be the energy source of tomorrow, but I tend to agree with the skeptism in the physics community. It will be very hard to find the antimatter we can suspend in a magnetic field; it will be one of the most impressive engineering accomplishments we've yet done, if we manage to do it. As you can imagine funding the project would not be easy.

Once we have hold of a significant amount, we can think about such projects but untill then...