Fatherland

[Zykev2]

What do you think the world would be like if Hitler had won World War 2? Lately I've been really fascinated with the World war II, Nazi era it really is facinatiing how much this man (Hitler) knew and how easy it was to take over a whole country and simultaneously lead millions of people into a common goal and almost conquer all of Europe.

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This debate will be loosely based on the ideas and ideology of the movie Fatherland listed below, however this whole debate is open to speculation since obviously there is no real way to know what actually would have happened only what might have happened. This should be an interesting debate.

Enjoy.


A good movie to watch is

Fatherland (part 1)
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Fatherland (part 2)
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Fatherland (part 3)
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Fatherland (part 4)
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Fatherland (part 5)
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Fatherland (part 6)
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Fatherland (part 7)
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Fatherland (part 8)
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this movie is a look at what the world might be like if Hitler had won the war.

[Shishir G]

1) All jews would be dead
2) there's a reason he died , and now he can't come back to life
3) stop imagining things like that.

[Zykev2]

1) All jews would be dead
2) there's a reason he died , and now he can't come back to life
3) stop imagining things like that.

1) This personally does not affect me since I am not Jewish. Nor do I know anyone who is Jewish.

2) The reason he died is because the allied forces were closing in on him and he would be put to death so might as well kill yourself than be a POW and lose all self dignity.

3) I can imagine anything I want, its very interesting to see what the world would be like if just one little thing had gone wrong in WW2. How different whether it be for the better or worse the world would have been.

[my pker pure]

& Blonde hair blue eyes. (As the majority)

[Zykev2]

& Blonde hair blue eyes. (As the majority)

I like some of the ideas that Hitler had because they were for the better of the world at least from my standpoint, the only thing that people see now a days is the Holocaust, not the amazing feat he did, without a doubt one of THE best leaders the world has ever seen and you cannot deny that no matter how much you dislike his policy.

[bl00dshooter]

No matter how good he was, in my eyes, nothing can justify nonsense genocide.

Besides, it's hard to suppose, we don't know how longer he would have lived. He could have died the other year to due to some disease, or whatever.

[Shishir G]

I like some of the ideas that Hitler had because they were for the better of the world at least from my standpoint, the only thing that people see now a days is the Holocaust, not the amazing feat he did, without a doubt one of THE best leaders the world has ever seen and you cannot deny that no matter how much you dislike his policy.

Leader? Yes, good one? No.
I agree though his strategies were brilliant, he took over a whole fucking country by spreading nonsense to people and why should people just forget the holocaust?
According to a website:
The figure of 11 million people dead is often given but it is completely unclear where this figure comes from, and how it is calculated. It is far too low. One also encounters the range 11-17 million.
6 million of these were Jewish (close to two thirds of Europe's Jewish population) and about one quarter of these were children under 15.

That means that besides the 6 Million Jewish people, the other 5Million during the whole shit Hitler did. He hated Jews, so he killed them, and he killed 5 Million along with them...
If he was alive, he would've killed plenty more million not just jewish but other races as well, and the other 5 Million he killed could've been anyone of us, you, me, etc. It's a good thing he's dead, and I'm pretty sure no one but the Nazi's want him back.
He was a good leader a SUPERB strategist, but he used those for evil, and thats the reason no one likes him, except Nazi's in the modern era.

[Zykev2]

Leader? Yes, good one? No.
I agree though his strategies were brilliant, he took over a whole fucking country by spreading nonsense to people and why should people just forget the holocaust?
According to a website:
The figure of 11 million people dead is often given but it is completely unclear where this figure comes from, and how it is calculated. It is far too low. One also encounters the range 11-17 million.
6 million of these were Jewish (close to two thirds of Europe's Jewish population) and about one quarter of these were children under 15.

That means that besides the 6 Million Jewish people, the other 5Million during the whole shit Hitler did. He hated Jews, so he killed them, and he killed 5 Million along with them...
If he was alive, he would've killed plenty more million not just jewish but other races as well, and the other 5 Million he killed could've been anyone of us, you, me, etc. It's a good thing he's dead, and I'm pretty sure no one but the Nazi's want him back.
He was a good leader a SUPERB strategist, but he used those for evil, and thats the reason no one likes him, except Nazi's in the modern era.

I'm not a Nazi and I admire him, he prosecuted the Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Jews, as well as anyone who opposed his Reich which is brilliant, Fear is the best way to gain obedience. Nobody really knows the real reason behind the Holocaust its not like Hitler just said "Hey lets hate on some jews today everybody." It was long believed that the Jewish people were the cause of Germany's problems during World war 1, the loss to the Allies and the harsh reprimands of the Versailles treaty.

Think all the problems that we would of never come into if the Nazis came to power the whole conflict in the middle east, North Korea and South Korea would be obedient and still probably one Korea, a stable world order, a pure "super-race." Amazing architecture and order, Crime rate would be much less and Murder rates would also be dramatically down. Me personally I would rather wipe out a group of people (In this case Jewish) if it meant increasing the stability, and wellness of the world as a whole. I don't support killing them but sending them to a country that doesn't matter like Australia or Canada would be appropriate then they can run and play and start there own Government.

However you guys are missing the point, this is not about debating whether what Hitler did was right or not but just what it would be like do you think the world would be a better place? Why or why not. I'm not condoning his actions I'm just being a realist.

[Shishir G]

I'm not a Nazi and I admire him, he prosecuted the Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Jews, as well as anyone who opposed his Reich which is brilliant, Fear is the best way to gain obedience. Nobody really knows the real reason behind the Holocaust its not like Hitler just said "Hey lets hate on some jews today everybody." It was long believed that the Jewish people were the cause of Germany's problems during World war 1, the loss to the Allies and the harsh reprimands of the Versailles treaty.

Think all the problems that we would of never come into if the Nazis came to power the whole conflict in the middle east, North Korea and South Korea would be obedient and still probably one Korea, a stable world order, a pure "super-race." Amazing architecture and order, Crime rate would be much less and Murder rates would also be dramatically down. Me personally I would rather wipe out a group of people (In this case Jewish) if it meant increasing the stability, and wellness of the world as a whole. I don't support killing them but sending them to a country that doesn't matter like Australia or Canada would be appropriate then they can run and play and start there own Government.

However you guys are missing the point, this is not about debating whether what Hitler did was right or not but just what it would be like do you think the world would be a better place? Why or why not. I'm not condoning his actions I'm just being a realist.

@LOL at last part, a place no one cares like Canada or Australia, totally agree haha.

1 Government for the entire world is not a "good" thing. (Just remembered the Illuminati rumors :p)
1 man controlling the entire world, that is TOO much power. a "super-race"?
Thats not possible unless if Hitler killed everyone in the world, then had sex with his sister till she had a boy and a girl, then they had sex, and so on. There will never be a "super-race" on Earth.Where did Architecture come into this? Each Nation has its own Architecture and German certainly weren't the best of that time. What makes you think the crime and murder rates would go down? Hitler being the president of the world is like...
Let's do a example.
Lets say... the USA is the only thing on Earth, there are no other nations nothing.
Hitler = Obama
Hitlers Minions = Police
The same would happen, You think people don't fear going to jail? being executed for doing dumbass things in the USA?
Police would regulate all the rules, but even they can't be everywhere at every single second to look at people and see what they do.
So to say my own Opinion, no the world would not be a better place, would be have changed? we can't know but judging by his past behavior, no. What if he suddenly wanted to kill the... Chinese race? the White race? Maybe he just wanted the German race to be alive?
We can't tell.
Everything we do on this thread will be a prediction. PERIOD.

[ymx boy]

1) This personally does not affect me since I am not Jewish. Nor do I know anyone who is Jewish.

2) The reason he died is because the allied forces were closing in on him and he would be put to death so might as well kill yourself than be a POW and lose all self dignity.

3) I can imagine anything I want, its very interesting to see what the world would be like if just one little thing had gone wrong in WW2. How different whether it be for the better or worse the world would have been.

You only thinking about yourself when you say you not a Jewish. But those people are just like us so selfish. :S

[Zykev2]

@LOL at last part, a place no one cares like Canada or Australia, totally agree haha.

1 Government for the entire world is not a "good" thing. (Just remembered the Illuminati rumors :p)
1 man controlling the entire world, that is TOO much power. a "super-race"?
Thats not possible unless if Hitler killed everyone in the world, then had sex with his sister till she had a boy and a girl, then they had sex, and so on. There will never be a "super-race" on Earth.Where did Architecture come into this? Each Nation has its own Architecture and German certainly weren't the best of that time. What makes you think the crime and murder rates would go down? Hitler being the president of the world is like...
Let's do a example.
Lets say... the USA is the only thing on Earth, there are no other nations nothing.
Hitler = Obama
Hitlers Minions = Police
The same would happen, You think people don't fear going to jail? being executed for doing dumbass things in the USA?
Police would regulate all the rules, but even they can't be everywhere at every single second to look at people and see what they do.
So to say my own Opinion, no the world would not be a better place, would be have changed? we can't know but judging by his past behavior, no. What if he suddenly wanted to kill the... Chinese race? the White race? Maybe he just wanted the German race to be alive?
We can't tell.
Everything we do on this thread will be a prediction. PERIOD.

Lol "super-race" is not an inbred race its a simple Nazi Ideology that inhabits the one pure Aryan race in the world. Similar to the Social Hierarchy based on wealth and rank in the middle ages, Hitlers Hierarchy was based on skin tone, Dark Africans being lowest and the Aryan (Germanic, Swedes, Icelanders, Norwegians, Danish, Irish, French, British and Dutch, Italians, Spanish, ect) being the highest. If you read up on Nazism, you would find that a big part of Hitlers dream (which he also discussed in his book Mein Kumph) Architecture was a big portion in what he would try to establish after the war in Germania (The super-country the Nazi's would establish) Hitler was interested in Greek Architecture. You can find a lot more information on it here Only the registered members can see the link..27s_mausoleum
Believe it or not Architecture was a big part of the Nazi plan after the war especially in Berlin. Hitler was a dictator in Germany, he wanted Germany to be free for Aryan race and allies so it wouldn't be a totalitarian system totally.

[Potastic]

Hitler = smart guy.
What he did = wrong.

/

[Brendan]

2) The reason he died is because the allied forces were closing in on him and he would be put to death so might as well kill yourself than be a POW and lose all self dignity.

He lost all his dignity when he murdered one person in cold blood. Simple as that.

Former president Eisenhower:

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.


Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

[Emperor]

I think Europe would be way better than it is now.
Economically way better.
The average working human would be treated way better, way less corrupt powerful persons, less manipulation through media, ...

I think it's a shame Hitler didn't win WWII.

Edit: For those who are about to say "jews would be dead, racism would be allowed, etc."
Racism happens all the time, and is in many cases 'legal'.
Jews do the same things as 'Nazi-Germany' did.

[mumups]

I think Europe would be way better than it is now.
Economically way better.
The average working human would be treated way better, way less corrupt powerful persons, less manipulation through media, ...

I think it's a shame Hitler didn't win WWII.

Edit: For those who are about to say "jews would be dead, racism would be allowed, etc."
Racism happens all the time, and is in many cases 'legal'.
Jews do the same things as 'Nazi-Germany' did.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA how do you think he came to power in the first place?

[Twisted]

I'm not a Nazi and I admire him, he prosecuted the Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Jews, as well as anyone who opposed his Reich which is brilliant, Fear is the best way to gain obedience. Nobody really knows the real reason behind the Holocaust its not like Hitler just said "Hey lets hate on some jews today everybody." It was long believed that the Jewish people were the cause of Germany's problems during World war 1, the loss to the Allies and the harsh reprimands of the Versailles treaty.

Think all the problems that we would of never come into if the Nazis came to power the whole conflict in the middle east, North Korea and South Korea would be obedient and still probably one Korea, a stable world order, a pure "super-race." Amazing architecture and order, Crime rate would be much less and Murder rates would also be dramatically down. Me personally I would rather wipe out a group of people (In this case Jewish) if it meant increasing the stability, and wellness of the world as a whole. I don't support killing them but sending them to a country that doesn't matter like Australia or Canada would be appropriate then they can run and play and start there own Government.

However you guys are missing the point, this is not about debating whether what Hitler did was right or not but just what it would be like do you think the world would be a better place? Why or why not. I'm not condoning his actions I'm just being a realist.

Fuck you arrogant American.

[Marcus01]

I'm not a Nazi and I admire him, he prosecuted the Gypsies, Homosexuals, and Jews, as well as anyone who opposed his Reich which is brilliant, Fear is the best way to gain obedience. Nobody really knows the real reason behind the Holocaust its not like Hitler just said "Hey lets hate on some jews today everybody." It was long believed that the Jewish people were the cause of Germany's problems during World war 1, the loss to the Allies and the harsh reprimands of the Versailles treaty.

Think all the problems that we would of never come into if the Nazis came to power the whole conflict in the middle east, North Korea and South Korea would be obedient and still probably one Korea, a stable world order, a pure "super-race." Amazing architecture and order, Crime rate would be much less and Murder rates would also be dramatically down. Me personally I would rather wipe out a group of people (In this case Jewish) if it meant increasing the stability, and wellness of the world as a whole. I don't support killing them but sending them to a country that doesn't matter like Australia or Canada would be appropriate then they can run and play and start there own Government.

However you guys are missing the point, this is not about debating whether what Hitler did was right or not but just what it would be like do you think the world would be a better place? Why or why not. I'm not condoning his actions I'm just being a realist.

I see exactly were your coming from. I admire him as well, he was a great leader and his plans were brilliant. He got a whole nation to follow him. But, i do not think the world would be a better place, we would have no freedom we would have to do what HE said, and i'm against the mass killings and he should of just moved them too someplace else (not necessarily Canada or Australia). But for sure I do admire him and some of the things he has done.

[Zykev2]

Fuck you arrogant American.

Lmao, haters gonna hate, don't be mad because Australia is the worlds armpit.

[Time]

Good leader? Yes, he was. But I COMPLETELY disagree with almost everything he belived in.

- We'd all be under one person. We wouldn't get a say - so in our life. We'd do what Hitler wanted us to do, no matter what. It would be a world wide dictatorship. I would have probably would have lived, due to my blonde hair and blue eyes, but I'm not selfish enough to say it'd be fine if I was alive, even if MILLIONS of people died.

- Everyone would be on the same level, even if one person works harder than another. I could work my ass off on my Hitler-assigned job, but I'd still get just as much as the guy who half-asses everything at his job.

- I wouldn't get a fair trial. With democracies, people randomly selected for a jury are able to choose whether I'm guilty or innocent for an offence. Under Hitler, or a dictatorship period, the government would choose whether I was guilty or innocent. Well, what happens when the guy I'm accusing of doing a crime is best friends with the judge. Do you think he's going to get a fair trial?

- Media would be COMPLETELY one sided. There wouldn't be two opinions. There would only be one opinion.


Have you ever read Night, by Elie Wiesel? It's a book about a Jewish boy who lived in Sighet during World War II. His family was taken to the Auschwitz Concentration Camp. His Mother, Sister, and Father were all burned in the crematorium. Burned alive. He endured years of torture. Guess what? If something went wrong with the Dictatorship, Hitler would just choose another race to blame. What folows after blaming an entire race for the problems of a Dictatorship? Genocide.


Still think a Nazi World would be good? If so, you truely are ignorant.

[Zykev2]

Ignorant for a belief? No, learn what ignorant is.


Everyone would be on the same level, even if one person works harder than another. I could work my ass off on my Hitler-assigned job, but I'd still get just as much as the guy who half-asses everything at his job.


Why is this? Are you confusing a dictatorship with a socialistic government? The Nazi party members take enormous pride in there country and countrymen so work ethic would undoubtedly be higher in Germania where they would pride themselves on the quality of Germania's products and way of life. Also I doubt you want to half ass a job that would be assigned by Hitler.



I wouldn't get a fair trial. With democracies, people randomly selected for a jury are able to choose whether I'm guilty or innocent for an offence. Under Hitler, or a dictatorship period, the government would choose whether I was guilty or innocent. Well, what happens when the guy I'm accusing of doing a crime is best friends with the judge. Do you think he's going to get a fair trial?


I am not a found supporter of Capitalism, however I would like to suggest that the Judicial system in the United States is a joke, the system is corrupt and unmanageable and the way that the Judicial system goes about things are in total disarray. You don't have to be a genious to know that people are going to be corrupt even judges, prime examples: OJ simpson, Micheal Jackson. Both obviously guilty but managed to pay there way out.


Media would be COMPLETELY one sided. There wouldn't be two opinions. There would only be one opinion.

Well in the movie that this discussion is supposed to be based on (Which I doubt anyone even payed attention) they say that News was tightly controlled for a little after the war mostly to cover up conspiracies about the Holocaust that in this movie the public never knew happened.


Have you ever read Night, by Elie Wiesel? It's a book about a Jewish boy who lived in Sighet during World War II. His family was taken to the Auschwitz Concentration Camp. His Mother, Sister, and Father were all burned in the crematorium. Burned alive. He endured years of torture. Guess what? If something went wrong with the Dictatorship, Hitler would just choose another race to blame. What folows after blaming an entire race for the problems of a Dictatorship? Genocide.

Hitler would eradicate all members opposed the the Nazi Reich so there wouldn't be any opposition to his rule, Germania would be such a great power no other country (with the exception of Soviet Union) would dare try, in the movie this is why the Germans invited the United States journalist inside berlin to try and reach an agreement to help each other eradicate the Soviet Union which was the only nation still fighting.

It honestly is a good movie.

Also again I think you're missing the point this is more of a "what if" and I said before not what I necessarily believe, however this whole "debate" is speculation which I find is actually pretty interesting and a hot topic to get members of this forum actively debating. This is a challenge for me, as well as everyone on this forum to think outside of the box and what they learned in school about the Holocaust. Think BEYOND what they know and see what the world could have been. Its very interesting in my opinion.

[Time]

Hitler would eradicate all members opposed the the Nazi Reich so there wouldn't be any opposition to his rule, Germania would be such a great power no other country (with the exception of Soviet Union) would dare try, in the movie this is why the Germans invited the United States journalist inside berlin to try and reach an agreement to help each other eradicate the Soviet Union which was the only nation still fighting.


So you're saying if someone doesn't agree with you, you should just murder them, and their entire race?



Okay, here's what I think it would be like:

Hitler would rule for around 30 years. Then, like almost all dictatorships, the people would revolt. Then the world would be divided differently, and it would take a while for countries to re-develope.

[Zykev2]

So you're saying if someone doesn't agree with you, you should just murder them, and their entire race?



Okay, here's what I think it would be like:

Hitler would rule for around 30 years. Then, like almost all dictatorships, the people would revolt. Then the world would be divided differently, and it would take a while for countries to re-develope.

No, my I've made it clear that I never endorsed the method of eradicating a group of people for not agreeing with you, it is an effective weapon however when brainwashing doesn't work.

[Time]

No, my I've made it clear that I never endorsed the method of eradicating a group of people for not agreeing with you, it is an effective weapon however when brainwashing doesn't work.

I honestly think if you saw the harshness of living under a dictatorship, you'd realise how good you have it..

[Zykev2]

I honestly think if you saw the harshness of living under a dictatorship, you'd realise how good you have it..

Ugh, you don't understand this debate at all I don't think. This isn't comparing capitalism to a Totalitarianism system. This is to debate what the world would be like post WWII if the Germans would have won, I am playing the role of Con just to challenge myself as well as keep this debate alive since obviously pretty much nobody will take the Con side. As I stated numerous times before this debate does not necessarily portray what I actually believe. A good debater can debate both sides regardless of what he believes and I am testing that now.

[Trey]

Moved to Intelligent Debate as requested. All rules and expectations of the Intelligent Debate board take effect now.

[Kingdomkey01]

I personally think that the Aryan may have prospered, and his plans of genocide would have extended beyond just Jews. It would have been a very terrible thing if he didn't die.

[Global]

If the German army won WWII,

a) the Jewish population would be extinct, if not rapidly declining
b) the entire continent of Europe would be under harsh dictatorship, if not a larger area
c) basically our standard of living wouldn't be as nice as it is today

[Zykev2]

If the German army won WWII,

a) the Jewish population would be extinct, if not rapidly declining
b) the entire continent of Europe would be under harsh dictatorship, if not a larger area
c) basically our standard of living wouldn't be as nice as it is today

Why do people insist that just because you have a dictator your standard of living becomes impoverished? Do you not realize when Hitler was alive Germany was prospering more than at any other time in its history, Economically and Militarily?

[Shishir G]

Why do people insist that just because you have a dictator your standard of living becomes impoverished? Do you not realize when Hitler was alive Germany was prospering more than at any other time in its history, Economically and Militarily?

i LOVE how you just avoid the a) and b)!
Germany was getting better, yes, but overall him being a dictator of the whole freaking world... thats TOO MUCH POWER like i've said before, NO ONE, EVER deserves that much power! When spiderman said "with power comes great responsibility" *something like that* he wasn't just saying it to make people laugh. Hitler, overall according to history was NOT a good man, even though he did get the people he LIKED to where he wanted, the rest of the people suffered, there is no way the world would go up like that.
And your point of "Economically and Militarily" is invalid.
If Hitler was the dictator, there would be no "economy" since he owns the whole thing, HE would control it... not the people.
Dictatorship and Freedom are different.
Militarily successful is also invalid, If Hitler was a dictator, who the hell would people fight against? He would be the leader of the world, are they all going to prepare for an Alien Invasion?

P.S. am i the only one giving you a bit of a hard time on this thread? no one seems to be... actually "debating"

[Twisted]

Lmao, haters gonna hate, don't be mad because Australia is the worlds armpit.

Don't be mad cause America is the worst country that almost everyone IN your country who are even remotely intelligent know how much it sucks.
Don't be mad cause your economy is down the shitter, even Australia's money now is worth more, your country is going to be as poor as Africa soon, that or your ganna get nuked.
Don't be mad cause your country is the fattest country known to man, and that you have cheeseburger built into your system.
Don't be mad cause your dumbass redneck portion of your country are the only ones who still think your country is great.

Ye you mad.

[Twisted]

Also, to get into this debate.
Personally, yes, Hitler was a very intelligent, strategic man.
Would he be a good ruler? Fuck no. His aim was to conquer the world, that is honestly just stupid. 1 man ruling everything would be horrible.
Hitler himself, was really, REALLY strict, and on some occasions made horrible decisions that cost him the war. "Don't invade Russia, you will get raped from behind" "LETS INVADE RUSSIA WITH FULL FORCE!" hurp durp.
Things like this, could horrible effect the way of life, and people who don't except this way of life would have a nice time in the gas chamber.
Also, ruled by 1 person, what if a worse person comes to power after Hitler's death? Kill all Black people, kill all asian's, kill all American's.
Fuck that.

[Twisted]

What kind of intelligent debate is that.

I was given my reasoning behind the reason why I don't support him as a good world ruler, with some sarcasm and stupidness thrown into the mix.
Also, I think its little bit better then "What kind of intelligent debate is that". Heck, why can't we just say that for every argument the world has.

That is so hypocritical its funny.

[Marcus01]

Only the registered members can see the link.
it's disgusting. I would never want children seeing this. Why else do so many “gays” claim exclusive attraction for persons of the same sex rather than, say, gender nonconforming persons of the other sex? All this indicates a basic societal admission that there is an essential and holistic maleness and femaleness that transcend mere social constructs.

I don't see how they have corrupted the world? It's not disgusting... You're a bad debater.

Anyways, i was talking to my aunty about this subject and she was saying that he wasn't at all a good leader because he brainwashed people. I started to see where she was coming from, but it is still an extreme feat to "brainwash" a whole nation.

[Marcus01]

When I see images of homosexuals I feel disgusted.
How should you call me a bad debater? Because I don't have your idiotic "liberal" views? Just like the fags have?

The only reason YOU accept them is because yourself feels attacked by others, and you must respond back by promoting people who the attacker also dislikes. As these homosexuals have no brain other than "have sex, have sex" shown by pride parades and what not, they lack any social conception of a family - as liberals.

Take a second, ask yourself why would a man like to lay with another as with a woman? The only real answer is a mindset of rebellion.

Also, Hitler did not brainwash people - the Jews are simply the most hated group throughout history.

Your so stereotypical about everything you debate about.
I know tons of homosexuals and they are normal quite frankly don't hit on me or other people a lot of the time. They are definitely just like us. They're pride parades are showing that they don't care what people think of them they are showing pride in who they are. It's a life style. They aren't thinking the same about us saying oh look at them eew they like girls? Rebellion? It's how they're bodies are they are attracted to the other sex no big deal.

And Hitler did "brainwash" people he put this idea into their heads that the jews are bad people and should be killed for not believing in Christianity. Hitler couldn't take out all the Jews on his own so he had to get people to follow him and he did it was brilliant.

brain·wash/ˈbrānˌwôSH/
Verb: Make (someone) adopt radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible pressure: "the organization could brainwash young people"

[Twisted]

When I see images of homosexuals I feel disgusted.
How should you call me a bad debater? Because I don't have your idiotic "liberal" views? Just like the fags have?

The only reason YOU accept them is because yourself feels attacked by others, and you must respond back by promoting people who the attacker also dislikes. As these homosexuals have no brain other than "have sex, have sex" shown by pride parades and what not, they lack any social conception of a family - as liberals.

Take a second, ask yourself why would a man like to lay with another as with a woman? The only real answer is a mindset of rebellion.

Also, Hitler did not brainwash people - the Jews are simply the most hated group throughout history.

That's YOU. YOU feel disgusted.
Everyone else, couldn't give a rat's ass about what they do. They are expressing their love, doesn't mean shit all. You didn't need to go to their parade did you? Their not pushing their beliefs onto you? If they aren't doing that, I'm happy.
Again, how would you know what they are thinking? "Have sex, have sex", if you haven't noticed, isn't the world having a problem with female and male relationships, and how they are just about sex? That argument can go both ways.
Social conception of a family, holy hell. You heard of adoption? Save a kid who was ABANDONED by his female and male parents, getting adopted by a warm caring male and male, they are humans just as much as the rest of us. They just think a little differently.

And a man chooses to lay with another man because HE WANTS TO, he has the RIGHT to lay with whom he wants, its his decision, NOT YOURS. You cannot say that men lay with other men for rebellious acts, because as you have proven, YOU'RE NOT GAY. You don't know why they do it, only they fucking know.

Also, the 2 most hated people throughout time, one was an atheist in a world full of Christians, and the other is currently controlling a Baptist Chuch and follows God.
You only think that cause you hate the jews, so automatically what is your opinion automatically becomes fact and logic and everyone Else's opinion.
Let me guess, you're a redneck American?

[Shishir G]

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[Marcus01]

I am a Jewish-Christian. I'm from Luxembourg.

And the world has always hated the Jews the most, please do research

Debate my post I want to debate back.

[Marcus01]

Your post is wrong and good night :)

You sir should never come back to the intelligent debate section.

[Twisted]

I am a Jewish-Christian. I'm from Luxembourg.

And the world has always hated the Jews the most, please do research

Why don't you do some research hypocrite? Islam is currently the most hated religion (Sorry to anyone who is, but according to "research" like this moron told me to do, Islam is the most hated, I don't hate it tho).
You're a idiot or a troll, both shouldn't be in the INTELLIGENT debate board.

[Brendan]

Post constructively or I'll ban you for a day or two.

[Global]

I agree with earlier posts. Once Hitler eradicated the Jewish population, he would probably move on to prosecute other religions. (e.g. Islam or Christianity)

Dictatorship = Bad
Democracy = Good

[Emperor]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA how do you think he came to power in the first place?

Not exactly by manipulating through media.
"Hahahaha"

The 'high-power politicians' in that time didn't expect Hitler to be any good.
They didn't think high of him, so they hoped they'd be able to control Hitler.
Also; the only other options was Communism, which no one likes.

[Zykev2]

Cut it out guys, this is the intelligent debate for a reason all of you have some (kind of) valid points, emphasize on them now all you guys are doing now is bickering back and forth. By the way Facebook and Wikipedia are not reliable places to quote.

[Emperor]

Cut it out guys, this is the intelligent debate for a reason all of you have some (kind of) valid points, emphasize on them now all you guys are doing now is bickering back and forth. By the way Facebook and Wikipedia are not reliable places to quote.

I didn't just quote from facebook.
I've given him 5 different URLs, all changing a lot from who wrote it.

[Zykev2]

This topic is getting nowhere. It's about HITLER not RELIGION.


Exactly, Its not only about but about a world where Nazi's ruled.


@emperor: I'm not saying your source is wrong regardless Facebook and Wikipedia are NEVER good sites to use.

[Global]

Well, there probably wouldn't be Nazi Zombies in Black Ops, maybe Jewish Zombies?

[Trey]

Next person to go off topic or ramble about religion will be banned for a day. Brendan already posted a warning.

[Dean]

since mods deleted my post

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i said umm

If Hitler was still alive, then he would probably feel a sort of resentment, because he was obviously going to take his life sooner or later, he didn't want to deal with all of the crap he had spit out for everyone to hate him. I guess he got tired of what he had done, and maybe thought it was wrong?

[Zykev2]

This was a very interesting video I found


Only the registered members can see the link.

I never knew that Jews were prosecuted very similarly in the Middle ages as they were in the 1930's-40's.

[Marcus01]

To be honest, I don't know what to think if Hitler did win the war and ruled the world. It would be very organised and we would be powerful. I doubt there would be fighting through nations as he would be the ultimate ruler imo. But the media would be controlled we wouldn't have a say. In all honesty I don't really know.