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Mitchell
July 6th, 2010, 05:46
If it were legalized, what would your thoughts be on it?

Do you want it legalized?

Or do you want it not legalized.

Debate, hate, whatever.

Imo, I think America would get out of debt if Marijuana would be legalized.

Call me an idiot, I don't care, but a lot of people have shit invested into it.

Ziek`
July 6th, 2010, 05:53
Honestly, I believe the whole drug trafficking thing would dial down if Mary Jane was legalized. I mean, if you look back at prohibition, so many people illegally made, sold, and used alcohol. After they did away with prohibition, alcohol consumption was brought back under control. I think the same thing would happen if marijuana was to be legalized. In my opinion, weed is the rebellion drug. So many people use it because they feel they are rebelling against the law and such. Make it legal and they won't be rebelling, so the use of marijuana would probably decrease.

James_
July 6th, 2010, 05:58
Honestly, I believe the whole drug trafficking thing would dial down if Mary Jane was legalized. I mean, if you look back at prohibition, so many people illegally made, sold, and used alcohol. After they did away with prohibition, alcohol consumption was brought back under control. I think the same thing would happen if marijuana was to be legalized. In my opinion, weed is the rebellion drug. So many people use it because they feel they are rebelling against the law and such. Make it legal and they won't be rebelling, so the use of marijuana would probably decrease.

You have a point on the rebellion aspect. But, after it's legalized it won't die down. Alcohol hasn't died down, it's actually gotten worse. But, I believe it should be legalized. Marijuana is a drug that helps the body relax, it brings a new feeling to the world. It helps people live there lives.

Marc
July 6th, 2010, 06:01
Or drug trafficing would skyrocket maybe?

Ziek`
July 6th, 2010, 06:03
Or drug trafficing would skyrocket maybe?

Why would there be drug trafficking for marijuana if it's legalized? If it's legalized, then it only makes sense that the government try and make money off of it by allowing it to be sold in stores and taxing it.

James_
July 6th, 2010, 06:05
Why would there be drug trafficking for marijuana if it's legalized? If it's legalized, then it only makes sense that the government try and make money off of it by allowing it to be sold in stores and taxing it.

The Government probably wouldn't want it as potent as it is right now. So there will still be dealers on the street selling the very potent stuff, imported from other countries.

Slik
July 6th, 2010, 10:22
The Government probably wouldn't want it as potent as it is right now. So there will still be dealers on the street selling the very potent stuff, imported from other countries.

Amsterdam sells some of the most potent weed there is. The fact of the matter is that on the street, dealers are lacing their goods with lots of things making marijuana worse than it should be. For example, a house near where I live got raided. Police said that the cannibis found had a lot of glass in it which would then be smoked by people whom it was sold to. Then again the police talk a lot of shit too. They also said they were increasing the THC levels in the buds to make their goods stronger, they obviously are very stupid.

If it was legal, there would be a lot more cleaner goods being sold for people to smoke, not the junk you get these days sold by kids as young as 10. People are going to use the drug, regardless of it being legal or illegal. If it were legal, atleast people would be more educated on the subject and be smoking a cleaner joint.

James_
July 6th, 2010, 14:39
Amsterdam sells some of the most potent weed there is. The fact of the matter is that on the street, dealers are lacing their goods with lots of things making marijuana worse than it should be. For example, a house near where I live got raided. Police said that the cannibis found had a lot of glass in it which would then be smoked by people whom it was sold to. Then again the police talk a lot of shit too. They also said they were increasing the THC levels in the buds to make their goods stronger, they obviously are very stupid.

If it was legal, there would be a lot more cleaner goods being sold for people to smoke, not the junk you get these days sold by kids as young as 10. People are going to use the drug, regardless of it being legal or illegal. If it were legal, atleast people would be more educated on the subject and be smoking a cleaner joint.

True. and I liked the way you used that. I guess we'll have to see in November. If you're old enough to vote in California, vote yes on Prop 19.

Brayden
July 6th, 2010, 15:15
You have a point on the rebellion aspect. But, after it's legalized it won't die down. Alcohol hasn't died down, it's actually gotten worse. But, I believe it should be legalized. Marijuana is a drug that helps the body relax, it brings a new feeling to the world. It helps people live there lives.

Not flaming but if you need something to help 'live your life' then you do have a problem and taking something such as a drug to calm and relax yourself is unnatural to the way of life. Your so twitsed into it I guess you probabaly can't even see it from a regular side of view.

Wise Old Man
July 6th, 2010, 15:16
Honestly, I believe the whole drug trafficking thing would dial down if Mary Jane was legalized. I mean, if you look back at prohibition, so many people illegally made, sold, and used alcohol. After they did away with prohibition, alcohol consumption was brought back under control. I think the same thing would happen if marijuana was to be legalized. In my opinion, weed is the rebellion drug. So many people use it because they feel they are rebelling against the law and such. Make it legal and they won't be rebelling, so the use of marijuana would probably decrease.

I 100% agree with everything you said :)

Canownueasy`
July 6th, 2010, 15:17
Look how many deaths occur from alchohol. Add weed to that and think what will happen.

Lusfr_
July 6th, 2010, 15:47
Annual Causes of Death in the United States

Tobacco (Only the registered members can see the link.) 435,000 Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity (Only the registered members can see the link.) 365,000 Alcohol (Only the registered members can see the link.) 85,000 Microbial Agents (Only the registered members can see the link.) 75,000 Toxic Agents (Only the registered members can see the link.) 55,000 Motor Vehicle Crashes (Only the registered members can see the link.) 26,347 Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs (Only the registered members can see the link.) 32,000 Suicide (Only the registered members can see the link.) 30,622 Incidents Involving Firearms (Only the registered members can see the link.) 29,000 Homicide (Only the registered members can see the link.) 20,308 Sexual Behaviors (Only the registered members can see the link.) 20,000 All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect (Only the registered members can see the link.) 17,000, 5 (Only the registered members can see the link.) Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin (Only the registered members can see the link.) 7,600 Marijuana (Only the registered members can see the link.) 0So they say all these things are illegal because their dangerous and look @ how many people are killed by 'legal' Tobacco every year.

And in California Prop 19 wont make it legal it will just drop it from a mistamedior to a civil infraction (parking ticket)

Canownueasy`
July 6th, 2010, 15:49
So they say all these things are illegal because their dangerous and look @ how many people are killed by 'legal' Tobacco every year.

And in California Prop 19 wont make it legal it will just drop it from a mistamedior to a civil infraction (parking ticket)

Because people don't go out and drive cars when they're high because its illegal.

TBH I think every1 should stop using drugs... there is no point of them

Lusfr_
July 6th, 2010, 15:53
The marijuana plant (hemp) has lots of uses other then getting high.

clothes, Car Bodies, Paper, Wood, etc., etc. and it's renewable. It could stop our dependency on trees. Which would be one giant step twords saving our planet. but the logging industry has too much power and keeps it like it is now. the same with oil and all these big companies who control everything that goes on. I mean money IS power in todays world.

samuraiblood2
July 6th, 2010, 16:22
Not flaming but if you need something to help 'live your life' then you do have a problem and taking something such as a drug to calm and relax yourself is unnatural to the way of life. Your so twitsed into it I guess you probabaly can't even see it from a regular side of view.

There is nothing wrong with having a crutch to get by in life. When you have bills to pay, a crappy job, kids/relatives to worry about, then something like a drink or drug can help ease the stress. Obviously if someone overuses then it will have dire consequences, but once in a while shouldn't be a bad thing. Also, marijuana does have medicinal purposes.

Personally, I don't like relying on anything or anybody, so I don't do drugs or anything of the sort.

SiniSoul
July 6th, 2010, 16:57
The marijuana plant (hemp) has lots of uses other then getting high.

clothes, Car Bodies, Paper, Wood, etc., etc. and it's renewable. It could stop our dependency on trees. Which would be one giant step twords saving our planet. but the logging industry has too much power and keeps it like it is now. the same with oil and all these big companies who control everything that goes on. I mean money IS power in todays world.

I believe this is how it got illegalized was the lumber industry?

baby
July 6th, 2010, 17:01
it might help yo body and all but there are some deffect and plus who said u gotta smoke it to help yo body.......:)

SiniSoul
July 6th, 2010, 17:03
Now remember kiddies if u smoke the purple dragon u might have the spelling and grammar of that guy! ^

Yaoi
July 6th, 2010, 17:11
If we legalize marijuana,actually less people would use it.They'll see what they did wrong

Brayden
July 6th, 2010, 17:12
There is nothing wrong with having a crutch to get by in life. When you have bills to pay, a crappy job, kids/relatives to worry about, then something like a drink or drug can help ease the stress. Obviously if someone overuses then it will have dire consequences, but once in a while shouldn't be a bad thing. Also, marijuana does have medicinal purposes.

Personally, I don't like relying on anything or anybody, so I don't do drugs or anything of the sort.

look how weel people turn out who turn to drinking in bad times.
It is a temperary fix and it causes long term problem.


I do not care if Weed has not killed anyone and smoking has. Thats not the reason why its illegal its illegal because its what harm you do to OTHERS. It changes your judgment. Alcohol does the same not as badly but does the same and just look at all the bad things that happen. Although a large amount of those drunk driving accidents are from people underage drinking. Illegal for a reason so stop thinking your too good for what wisdom of much older people have put into the law.

Lusfr_ lots of things have multi uses its a stupid point. Sure we can use corn for fuel but is it really a rational idea, no.

Lusfr_
July 6th, 2010, 19:37
look how weel people turn out who turn to drinking in bad times.
It is a temperary fix and it causes long term problem.


I do not care if Weed has not killed anyone and smoking has. Thats not the reason why its illegal its illegal because its what harm you do to OTHERS. It changes your judgment. Alcohol does the same not as badly but does the same and just look at all the bad things that happen. Although a large amount of those drunk driving accidents are from people underage drinking. Illegal for a reason so stop thinking your too good for what wisdom of much older people have put into the law.

Lusfr_ lots of things have multi uses its a stupid point. Sure we can use corn for fuel but is it really a rational idea, no.

Not many things can be grown in a month and be used for thousands of everyday things that we make (while not ruining our planet.). Plus it can be grown in a short time. I find that it's bullshit that people are allowed to buy cigs and kill themselves and yet people can't smoke pot when I has no bad effects on your mind or body. It's a muscle relaxant and pain reliever. It's not addictive unless you have an addictive personality. I just find your dumb. A plant that can be used for thousands of things and not destroy our earth because it is renewable is illegal. and I can guarantee that the only reason it is illegal is because of the companies with money (aka power) don't want it to be legal because they would lose billions.

Marijuana was completely legal for a long time in the old days in some states it was illegal not to grow it. Sails Rope, gas, paper (all school books were required to be made of hemp) clothing, wood, I means it has thousands of uses and the only reason it is illegal is because of the billions of dollars that some companies would lose. It was made illegal for completely dumb reasons.

and using marijuana as a fuel is more rational then corn because hemp can be grown pretty much anywhere.


I do not care if Weed has not killed anyone and smoking has. Thats not the reason why its illegal its illegal because its what harm you do to OTHERS. It changes your judgment. Alcohol does the same not as badly but does the same and just look at all the bad things that happen. Although a large amount of those drunk driving accidents are from people underage drinking. Illegal for a reason so stop thinking your too good for what wisdom of much older people have put into the law.

for that you shoudl be shot.

its illegal because its what harm you do to OTHERS. <- Complete bullshit, I have never heard of any murder caused by Marijuana, while everyday I hear about murders cause by alcohol. I mean weed DOES NOT make you violent.

And if you hadn't noticed. That all these "old" people were around when they knew 10k% less about it then they do now. We need young people in power because they old people try to stick to the old ways and don't want change. when this world is in need of change.

I mean ask people marijuana does not make you violent, you can't overdose. (virtually) It doesn't kill you slowly like Alcohol and Cigs.

And if you can't tell it's starting to become legal. California is going to legalization that would make it like Public intoxication if you got caught with weed on your person. and 12 other states already legalized it for medical use. Some states already have it to where your allowed to have a cretin amount for personal use. Some people in the government know that this would save us billions if not trillions trying to fight a drug war that we will NOT win. We are wasting so much money on something that can't be stopped.

Marijuana is becoming legal and the only thing it's going to take is time. It's going to happen, its already been set in motion.

Here's a few facts.



All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.
* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.
* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.
* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.
* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.
* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.
* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.
* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.
* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture
* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.
* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.



In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since.

Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight.

Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices.

Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime.

ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural.

WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds.

CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?

YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot.


Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.


a Little I have found at mutiple sites (~20 sites ea)

Canownueasy`
July 6th, 2010, 19:42
Nobody gives a crap if there are 0 deaths from marijuana. Just throw it away.

Waynex
July 6th, 2010, 19:57
Nobody gives a crap if there are 0 deaths from marijuana. Just throw it away.

This is called the Intelligent DEBATE, please don't post useless spam here.

Anyways, Marijuana has NEVER changed me. Also, I drive much better after I smoke, I'm more concentrated, and I'm much friendlier when I'm blazed.

Brayden
July 6th, 2010, 20:17
If its as you say not addictive then why is there no way to win the drug war? You've never heard of a incident caused by someone who as high? K heres 1 and this 1 happened at my own school. Kid was high got in trouble- broke a window cops came he ran through a alley found some glass and continued running then he went into a laundromat slipped glass went straight into his leg just missing a large artery. He also toppled over a pregnant woman but lucky for her her husband caught here and he also held the guy down until police arrived. He ended up OK but knowing this happened near me I bet worse has happened.

You make silly points about hemp's uses. Nothing is special about it.

Don't even start me on change. You do not understand anything yet if you think that change is what is needed. Change is the cause of all problems. If anything we should be trying to go back to older ways. Companies would lose billions? No actually they would PROFIT even more. Your trying to throw facts that are not logical with a spin on them.

Lusfr_
July 6th, 2010, 20:35
there's no way to win the drug war because people wont stop brining it in for everyone they bring in 5 more new smugglers\dealrs\growers take over their spot.

Of corse weed make your paranoid and when something happens you really freak out. I mean even you should know it causes paranoia.

So the fact that we are killing our plants with harsh chemicles and cutting down 4x the amount of trees and whatnot that weed need to. using petrolium when we don't need to. Makeing plastics when we can make biodegradable plastics with hemp.
Also it doesn't take a lifetime for the same amount of paper that you get from trees to grow in hemp.

so you saying the change to using computers for everyday things is bad? this is one of those things that should be changed and will be changed in time.

and NO
the oil companies would lose trillions and cotton companies and wood companies wouldn't suffer if we stoppped using what they produce?

Mitchell
July 6th, 2010, 23:21
If its as you say not addictive then why is there no way to win the drug war? You've never heard of a incident caused by someone who as high? K heres 1 and this 1 happened at my own school. Kid was high got in trouble- broke a window cops came he ran through a alley found some glass and continued running then he went into a laundromat slipped glass went straight into his leg just missing a large artery. He also toppled over a pregnant woman but lucky for her her husband caught here and he also held the guy down until police arrived. He ended up OK but knowing this happened near me I bet worse has happened.

You make silly points about hemp's uses. Nothing is special about it.

Don't even start me on change. You do not understand anything yet if you think that change is what is needed. Change is the cause of all problems. If anything we should be trying to go back to older ways. Companies would lose billions? No actually they would PROFIT even more. Your trying to throw facts that are not logical with a spin on them.

Go read the stories on drunk driving, you'll find a lot worse.

On with the debate :).

James_
July 7th, 2010, 02:02
Not flaming but if you need something to help 'live your life' then you do have a problem and taking something such as a drug to calm and relax yourself is unnatural to the way of life. Your so twitsed into it I guess you probabaly can't even see it from a regular side of view.

Actually I havn't smoked in over 6 months. You don't know what went on in my life, so stay the fuck out of it. Thank you. This is not a crucifixion on my behalf.


If its as you say not addictive then why is there no way to win the drug war? You've never heard of a incident caused by someone who as high? K heres 1 and this 1 happened at my own school. Kid was high got in trouble- broke a window cops came he ran through a alley found some glass and continued running then he went into a laundromat slipped glass went straight into his leg just missing a large artery. He also toppled over a pregnant woman but lucky for her her husband caught here and he also held the guy down until police arrived. He ended up OK but knowing this happened near me I bet worse has happened.

You make silly points about hemp's uses. Nothing is special about it.

Don't even start me on change. You do not understand anything yet if you think that change is what is needed. Change is the cause of all problems. If anything we should be trying to go back to older ways. Companies would lose billions? No actually they would PROFIT even more. Your trying to throw facts that are not logical with a spin on them.

Hemp is not Marijuana.

Lusfr_
July 7th, 2010, 02:08
Actually I havn't smoked in over 6 months. You don't know what went on in my life, so stay the fuck out of it. Thank you. This is not a crucifixion on my behalf.



Hemp is not Marijuana.

Hemp is a different type of marijuana that is grown to have little or no THC.

Hemp (from Old English hænep) is the name of the soft, durable fiber that is cultivated from plants of the Cannabis genus, cultivated for industrial and commercial (non-drug) use.

James_
July 7th, 2010, 02:09
Hemp is a different type of marijuana that is grown to have little or no THC.

Hemp (from Old English hænep) is the name of the soft, durable fiber that is cultivated from plants of the Cannabis genus, cultivated for industrial and commercial (non-drug) use.

Yes, I know that. But hemp is not smoked like Marijuana. Although it is legal in the u.s to grow both, it is illegal to sell unless for clothing/yadda yadda.

Lusfr_
July 7th, 2010, 02:12
I know hemp is not smoked. That's like saying you'll smoke the whole plant. the only thing you smoke is the buds, the rest can be used for it's hemp etc.

Slik
July 7th, 2010, 21:18
You make silly points about hemp's uses. Nothing is special about it.


You clearly know little about the subject yet you enter a debate about it. That is very smart.

Hemp is very durable, more so than cotton. Lets put something into perspective, if hemp was commercially exploited it wouldn't be a bad thing. There would be X amount less Co2 in the air for example, correct? Tell me the negatives of commercializing hemp.

Lusfr_
July 7th, 2010, 21:45
You clearly know little about the subject yet you enter a debate about it. That is very smart.

Hemp is very durable, more so than cotton. Lets put something into perspective, if hemp was commercially exploited it wouldn't be a bad thing. There would be X amount less Co2 in the air for example, correct? Tell me the negatives of commercializing hemp.

You forget it doesn't take toxic chemicals to make paper its renewable and is 70 percent cellos and trees are 30 percent

Slik
July 7th, 2010, 21:52
You can forget it doesnt take toxic chemicles to make paper its renewale and is 70 percent cellous and trees are 30 percent

Even other products made from weed are particularly good. I have tried quiet a few products, its a shame that people are so uneducated about the subject and result in believing what ever the media tells them to believe. Btw didn't you mean, "you forget" and not "you CAN forget"?

Joe
July 8th, 2010, 04:05
They sell legalized marijuana down here in Florida its called K2 well its not really marijuana but its a legalized herb that you smoke through a pipe and you get as high as you would on marijuana but it works...

ryanryanryan
July 8th, 2010, 04:50
First off, the cotton market and possibly others would get absolutely destroyed. That is why it was illegalized in the first place.

Second, America would lose at least an ounce of productivity. It's proven.

Third, it might usher in a new era of slavery. That's just my opinion.

It could be a good thing though. Personally I'd be happy if it were legal but it might have an adverse effect on America.

Waynex
July 8th, 2010, 19:43
They sell legalized marijuana down here in Florida its called K2 well its not really marijuana but its a legalized herb that you smoke through a pipe and you get as high as you would on marijuana but it works...

I didn't understand that at all.

Lusfr_
July 8th, 2010, 19:45
K2 is a 'weed' that is legal. it contains no THC.


they made it illegal here because people were bitching

Waynex
July 8th, 2010, 19:47
K2 is a 'weed' that is legal. it contains no THC.


they made it illegal here because people were bitching

I see, do they sell it every where in the USA?

Lusfr_
July 8th, 2010, 19:50
Nearly a dozen states and several cities are banning or debating bans on K2 — a packet of herbs coated with a synthetic chemical that mimics a marijuana high when it's smoked — amid fears that its use is spreading among young people.

K2, also known as "Spice," is sold online, in convenience stores and in herbal or spiritual shops, and is usually marketed as incense. The herbs, which sell for as much as $35 an ounce, have emerged as a popular, legal alternative to marijuana among teenagers and college students.

Clemson University chemist John Huffman, a research professor whose graduate students synthesized the substance in his lab 15 years ago, says the chemical may be harmful. "It shouldn't be out there," he says.

Anthony Scalzo, director of the Missouri Poison Center in St. Louis, notified poison centers nationwide about K2 the first week of February after doctors in Missouri reported patients sickened from it.

"At first we had about a dozen cases, but then it really blossomed. By the first week of April, we had 40 cases," Scalzo says. "Missouri remains the epicenter, but it's spreading out."

Poison Centers nationwide have reported 352 cases in 35 states since the initial report, he says. Patients often have a rapid heart rate, dangerously high blood pressure and sometimes hallucinations or paranoia.

The Drug Enforcement Administration considers K2 a "drug of concern," spokesman David Ausiello says. "We're in the early stages of trying to figure out how potent it is."

The Sacred Journey, a medicinal herb store in Lawrence, Kan., had sold K2 starting in August as part of a collection of incense, owner Natalie McAnulla says. Store sales skyrocketed from $1,000 a day to $10,000 a day.

Kansas banned the drug March 10. Kentucky followed April 13. Alabama's ban takes effect July 1. Legislatures in Georgia, Missouri and Tennessee have passed bans that will take effect unless vetoed by their governors. Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey and New York are considering bills to outlaw the drug.

Illinois Rep. Raymond Poe, a Republican from Springfield, introduced a bill to ban the drug after hearing a news report about kids in St. Louis who became ill after smoking K2. "We ought to be ahead of the curve before we have some sort of epidemic," Poe said. "It can be more potent than marijuana."

I'm sure they sell it anywhere where it has not bee illegalized

Waynex
July 8th, 2010, 20:17
Oh, "spice", yeah I've smoked that.

Slik
July 8th, 2010, 21:41
First off, the cotton market and possibly others would get absolutely destroyed. That is why it was illegalized in the first place.

Second, America would lose at least an ounce of productivity. It's proven.

Third, it might usher in a new era of slavery. That's just my opinion.

It could be a good thing though. Personally I'd be happy if it were legal but it might have an adverse effect on America.

What do you think cotton did to hemp? It wouldn't go down, just like how it wouldn't go down now. People will talk about the backlash of having another product to be used instead, except if they said it was harmful to use and made it illegal. Then there would be less backlash right? Intresting how that is exactly what happened. Cotton took over the market that hemp once owned. The simple truth is that cotton is used similarlly but is less durable meaning you need to buy it more often making it better for sales. One of the major contributions to weed being illegal.

wolves dawn
July 28th, 2010, 06:20
i honestly do think weed should be legal.. it's not even as bad for you as cigarettes, so if anything weed should be legal and cigarettes shouldnt be :)

Sunni
July 28th, 2010, 06:23
Weed is great!I mean just look what it can do for you and look what cigarettes can do to you.