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Vesta Main
October 12th, 2011, 00:07
Dear RuneScape Community,

I would like to take a moment of your time to address the highly emotive issue that we face as a community – bots.

At the beginning of the year, when we brought Free Trade and the Wilderness back, we promised that we would couple that with programmes that would combat the inevitable botting that would result from that decision. Over the last few months we have initiated a number of programmes to do this, some of which we have already mentioned to you, some of which we haven’t because of legal reasons and some because we do not want to warn gold farmers and bot makers about our counter measures.

The challenge for us is that despite all of our programmes and best intentions the problem is still huge and, most annoyingly, still adversely impacting parts of our game.

We are continuing to battle bots on all fronts. In an effort to be more open and transparent we wish to share a couple of measures and initiatives we are about to release/have released recently:

We have recently improved our internal systems to be able to spot spam from the chat window and instantly mute the offender preventing the constant flow of communication from the gold farmers which are impacting the game experience. Your reports are very helpful to us here!
Continuing our ongoing legal cases against bot developers.

Mandatory email validation for new accounts will add extra account security and impair the mass account creation that gold farmers use.
There are several other initiatives and actions that we plan to implement over the next few months and we will share these with you as often and in much detail as we can. The most significant of these is to come soon. Also, we recognise that we have not been the best at communicating what we are doing and that changes today.

While we are winning small battles by spending significant money and resources in trying to combat this problem, the war is not going in our favour as we are struggling to keep up with companies whose only business 24 hours a day 7 days a week is to find ways to get bots into the game. As a result, one thing has become really clear to us despite our ongoing efforts.

We cannot win this battle alone. We need your help.

So how can you help? First, we would like to hear from you in a more coordinated way regarding your thoughts about how to fight the bots problem. We will be developing surveys to help us understand more about bots directly from you... we would love to hear your response.

We would like to set up a special forum where we can have targeted Q&A’s and get formal feedback from you about specific initiatives. We will let you know when this forum is set up and invite you to join us.

We hope that you will engage with and encourage your friends to use any tools that we provide to you that will help us identify and ban the bots like the Spam Filter feature.

And finally, we would ask that you refrain from using bots or supporting gold farmers. If there is not a market, then bots will not exist. As was so eloquently put in a recent post on Tip.it “Standing up to Jagex [by voicing one’s opinion on the botting issue], one might argue, requires a certain amount of courage, but much more is required to stand up to one’s friends”. The player went on to say, “The community needs to stand up for itself by following the rules and shunning those who do not. Lacking customers, the websites that set up the bots will close, and the only botter will be the isolated real player. Ultimately, following the three pillars of the code of conduct that Jagex set up-“Honour,” “Respect,” and “Security” are a responsibility of the players and the community as much as they are of Jagex.”

We are committed to ridding our game of bots. We are committed to providing a more open discussion with you about the real challenges that we face as a result of our efforts. We are committed to involving you more in this war so we can win this fight together.

Most importantly, we are committed to continuing our investment in evolving and making RuneScape a great game to play and an amazing community to be a part of.

Thanks,

Daniel Clough
Chief Operating Officer & Vice President of RuneScape

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tl;dr: Runescape is working on programmes to stop bots. When they could just get thier lazy asses and visit green dragons or known botting places.

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:08
They said this last month and the month before that.
If they're really doing more than banning a few people that've been on for more than 4 hours here and there to keep their legit players happy, I'll be damned.

By the way; RSBuddy: Come at me bruh.

Vesta Main
October 12th, 2011, 00:09
They said this last month and the month before that.
If they're really doing more than banning a few people that've been on for more than 4 hours here and there to keep their legit players happy, I'll be damned.

You dont even see Jagex mods on rs anymore.

Wtf turmoil
October 12th, 2011, 00:09
So, your saying that you don't think Jagex knows that there is bots at green dragons???

Bots are everywhere and jagex knows thats. It's just seems a lil to late to stop the epidemic problem.

SkrilleX
October 12th, 2011, 00:10
Just change the damn way you run the game....make a whole different type of packet for walking and clicking throw bots way off.

Vesta Main
October 12th, 2011, 00:11
So, your saying that you don't think Jagex knows that there is bots at green dragons???

Bots are everywhere and jagex knows thats. It's just seems a lil to late to stop the epidemic problem.

Im saying they could ban the bots...but you dont see them doing it, or even seeing them in Runescape. The only time I ever saw a Jagex mod, was when they were doign a drop party/treasure trail thingy.

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:11
You dont even see Jagex mods on rs anymore.

Last time I saw one (And I'm on a fair amount of time..) was at the Grand Exchange on the day of the Graphical Update.

Dash'
October 12th, 2011, 00:12
When they could just get thier lazy asses and visit green dragons or known botting places.

lol at that

Wtf turmoil
October 12th, 2011, 00:15
You dont even see Jagex mods on rs anymore.

Ye, maybe if they didn't get crowed by trolls and idiots spamming the shit out of them, they might just go on. Anyway there are Jagex mods always online. Just on hidden accounts.

D Escobar
October 12th, 2011, 00:16
They have said this like 3 times now...but they might aculy do it this time :p

Cart
October 12th, 2011, 00:17
TL;DR2: JaGeX will promise more punishment and better programs then nothing happens.

Time
October 12th, 2011, 00:17
If RuneScape just did 1 small update every day, bots wouldn't work. ;D

Owner Carson
October 12th, 2011, 00:17
Just change the damn way you run the game....make a whole different type of packet for walking and clicking throw bots way off.

This is what I'm thinking. Their graphics are so advanced but they can't go out of there way to throw bots off, completely making bots fail. Hell make it where you use the keyboard to walk (arrow keys). Not that I don't bot:P But be smarter then the bots. Gf Jagex.

SkrilleX
October 12th, 2011, 00:18
D Escobar : why should your signature be allowed it makes this site look more unprofessionally ran than it already is

VitalityX
October 12th, 2011, 00:19
1 way to ban bots aswell

change the way skills work just a bit?

D Escobar
October 12th, 2011, 00:20
D Escobar : why should your signature be allowed it makes this site look more unprofessionally ran than it already is
way to get off topic? and its removed.
OT: if Jagex just ip banned then people would stop botting or bot less :)

Time
October 12th, 2011, 00:21
1 way to ban bots aswell

change the way skills work just a bit?

How so?

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:21
D Escobar : why should your signature be allowed it makes this site look more unprofessionally ran than it already is
Because it gives Internet Creeps like me a huge stiffy.

SkrilleX
October 12th, 2011, 00:21
way to get off topic? and its removed.
OT: if Jagex just ip banned then people would stop botting or bot less :)

IK just saying:OT: If they just made it better than people wouldn't have to bot.

VitalityX
October 12th, 2011, 00:24
How so?

the bot scripters would have to re-do their bot to make it work..?

Vesta Main
October 12th, 2011, 00:24
If you think about..Its kinda like a cheat client on an rsps, bot client on runescape, thier must be a way to stop it lol...

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:25
If you think about..Its kinda like a cheat client on an rsps, bot client on runescape, thier must be a way to stop it lol...
Probably, but no British old dude's gonna be able to find out how.

mrpwnagecode
October 12th, 2011, 00:26
I really Think Jagex Are up to something here and its not just talk

D Escobar
October 12th, 2011, 00:27
I really Think Jagex Are up to something here and its not just talk
they have said this many times, they might they might not but from past actions probably not.

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:27
Nope.
It's been talk for 10 years.
Gonna be talk for another 10 years.

mrpwnagecode
October 12th, 2011, 00:28
i gotta be honest if we werent all botters LOL :) ... id think if they asked for help so to say for coders like us we props as a community would stop botting but then NO lol

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:29
If that was true, they'll be at Rune-Server any second.
No.

Time
October 12th, 2011, 00:30
Just slight changes of skills won't put bots out of business.

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:31
Just slight changes of skills won't put bots out of business.
They'd be back up and running within the week.

mrpwnagecode
October 12th, 2011, 00:31
Rune-Server Has Alot more Trollers/leechers LOL

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:33
Rune-Server Has Alot more Trollers/leechers LOL
May be true, but it gets more traffic from what I hear.
Jagex wants the big business bitches.

D Escobar
October 12th, 2011, 00:34
They would basicly have to remake the whole Game to just make botters be out for a while or go with the other idea of daily updates...

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 00:35
They would basicly have to remake the whole Game to just make botters be out for a while or go with the other idea of daily updates...
No, they'd have to update from 3D Graphics to 4D Graphics in less than an hour's time.

Time
October 12th, 2011, 00:49
They would basicly have to remake the whole Game to just make botters be out for a while or go with the other idea of daily updates...

Just do daily updates to throw off bots, and only post the important updates they do. That way bot developers won't be able to see what changed, so they'll be thrown completely off. ;P

Cart
October 12th, 2011, 00:55
Just do daily updates to throw off bots, and only post the important updates they do. That way bot developers won't be able to see what changed, so they'll be thrown completely off. ;P
They would have to update the cache daily?

inb4 1028 Deob.

Cataclysm
October 12th, 2011, 01:04
Jagex sucks..

I quit playing after 11 year olds could figure out how to bot :/

iRepo
October 12th, 2011, 01:05
Jagex sucks..

I quit playing after 11 year olds could figure out how to bot :/
This is why you're mad.

Cataclysm
October 12th, 2011, 01:10
This is why you're mad.

Im not mad im just stating.

And I havnt seen you before on RL. Hello.

Jakec448
October 12th, 2011, 05:30
dam thats true bro

DJ`
October 12th, 2011, 06:08
everytime i walk buy the rune ess mining place in varrock, and theres at leat 100 botters there. rs aint doin shit to stop botters

Zykev2
October 12th, 2011, 11:28
Jagex wants to create the illusion that they're doing something, they won't Botters account for almost half of there profit. Botters also make the Economy without them prices would be much higher, they want to make it look to legit players like they're doing something; maybe ban a few accounts here and there but overall if they could of done something to stop it in the past where they released these posts, they would of.

rsgp
October 12th, 2011, 11:47
i bot U MAD?

Vesta Main
October 12th, 2011, 13:11
i bot U MAD?

I bot too lol. Its just that, If Jagex stops botters from botting, they should stop all of them...because rs isnt fun anymore.